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Access Date: April 18, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 367
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 21869891 | |
| Grade: | 367 | |
| Variation: | Father Time | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | Second | |
| Class: | 90 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1919 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 12 of 13 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 10,300 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 9,600 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 2,700 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Free Sprung | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator Present: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 10860.367G15.18S3496.188M145.O4548.L2222.21J275 | |
| Database Version: | v52.235 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 31.01 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 11.93 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.020% | |
| Registry Population: | 12 (1.20%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 18.56% Analyzing 62 Sales | |
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Research Note: Most of the movements from this run are free-sprung.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 367
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME
| Elgin Grade 367 (All Variations): 10,300 ETP | |||||||||
| 18S: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367 |
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| 18S-M8: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-21J: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 10,300 100.00% | |||||||||
| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME: 9,600 93.20% | Other: 700
Other Variants or Unclassified |
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| NOTE: 13,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 2,700 Never Manufactured | |||||||||
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 12 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
rmwatchandclock Supporter 366 · February 4, 2024
Serial Number 21869614 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 9, 2021
Serial Number 21869720 was reported as accurate.
dcooper Supporter 222 · July 27, 2021
Serial Number 21869222 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 12, 2020
Serial Number 21869338 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 26, 2018
Serial Number 21869640 was reported as accurate.
zork0300 18 · July 24, 2018
Serial Number 21869760 was reported as accurate.
zork0300 18 · July 24, 2018
Serial Number 21869760 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 20, 2018
Serial Number 21869776 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 27, 2018
Serial Number 21869555 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 7, 2016
Serial Number 21869803 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 4, 2015
Serial Number 21869095 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 13, 2014
Serial Number 21869204 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 16, 2014
Serial Number 21869324 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 10, 2014
Serial Number 21869338 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 3, 2014
Serial Number 21869338 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 15, 2013
Serial Number 21869542 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 29, 2012
Serial Number 21869865 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 10, 2012
Serial Number 21869011 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 25, 2012
Serial Number 21869062 was reported as accurate.
