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Access Date: April 20, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 478
B.W. Raymond
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 41726202 | |
| Grade: | 478 | |
| Variation: | B.W. Raymond | |
| Model: | 15 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1943 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 85 of 91 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 185,400 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 171,400 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI) | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Ball | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 15009.478G85.16S3829.1615M351.O6881.L2483.21J467 | |
| Database Version: | v52.235 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 558.20 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 215.65 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.366% | |
| Registry Population: | 14 (1.40%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 1.94% Analyzing 1,534 Sales | |
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Research Note: Original factory serial lists designate 41725001-41727000 as Grade 478. However, because the first half of the run was produced with a "gold flashed" finished while the second half was standard nickel, this run has been segmented for the purpose of the database.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 478
Target Profile: 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND
| Elgin Grade 478 (All Variations): 185,400 ETP | |||
| 16S: 185,400 100.00% 16s, Grade 478 |
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| 16S-M15: 185,400 100.00% 16s, Grade 478, Model 15 |
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| 16S-M15-21J: 185,400 100.00% 16s, Grade 478, Model 15, 21 Jewels |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL: 173,400 93.53% 16s, Grade 478, Model 15, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
Other: 12,000
Other Configs or Unclassified |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 171,400 92.45% | Other: 2,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND: 171,400 92.45% | |||
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 14 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 4691 · October 25, 2023
Serial Number 41726075 was reported as accurate.
fpionati 6 · February 16, 2021
Serial Number 41726945 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Anonymous · December 2, 2020
Serial Number 41726476 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Anonymous · April 16, 2019
Serial Number 41726926 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Anonymous · July 13, 2017
Serial Number 41726251 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Anonymous · October 16, 2016
Serial Number 41726367 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Anonymous · August 8, 2016
Serial Number 41726367 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: This one is nickel and no wind indicator.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 292 · June 5, 2016
Serial Number 41726202 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: From a Sept. 2008 thread at the NAWCC message
board
(http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?43339-What-doe
s-gold-flashed-mean )
if you scroll down, it was noted that some (but
not all) of the 41,725,001 - 41,727,000 run of
2000 478s were gold flashed, as indicated in a
partial list.
As you can see from the picture my #41726202 is
nickel. I came across a sold listing online of
#41,726,855 which was also nickel.
Perhaps under Movement Finish "gold flashed or
Nickel" would be less confusing for
movements in the 41,725,001-41,727,000 run that
folks enter on the Database that are Nickel .
board
(http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?43339-What-doe
s-gold-flashed-mean )
if you scroll down, it was noted that some (but
not all) of the 41,725,001 - 41,727,000 run of
2000 478s were gold flashed, as indicated in a
partial list.
As you can see from the picture my #41726202 is
nickel. I came across a sold listing online of
#41,726,855 which was also nickel.
Perhaps under Movement Finish "gold flashed or
Nickel" would be less confusing for
movements in the 41,725,001-41,727,000 run that
folks enter on the Database that are Nickel .
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Gold Flashed to Nickel
Gasperoff Supporter 727 · August 26, 2015
Serial Number 41726515 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 292 · June 9, 2013
Serial Number 41726202 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 1, 2012
Serial Number 41726222 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 28, 2012
Serial Number 41726724 was reported as accurate.
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