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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 69 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 69

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 4178
Grade: 69
Variation: B.W. Raymond
Model: 1
Class: 1
Estimated Production Year: 1867
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 24
Total Production: 29,054
Size: 18s
Jewels: 15j
Movement Configuration: Adaptable
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Setting: Key
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Adjusted: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
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Case: Various
Database Version: v48.256
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Anonymous · January 5, 2022

Serial Number 4151 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 10, 2021

Serial Number 4750 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 17, 2021

Serial Number 4518 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 13, 2020

Serial Number 4410 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 5, 2020

Serial Number 4967 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 16, 2020

Serial Number 4750 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2020

Serial Number 4410 was reported as accurate.

texnet Supporter 684 · July 19, 2020

Serial Number 4078 was reported as accurate.

sgallo 5 · July 6, 2020

Serial Number 4053 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 14, 2020

Serial Number 4598 was reported as accurate.

MJKauz Supporter 23 · December 19, 2019

Serial Number 4449 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 23, 2019

Serial Number 4626 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 18, 2018

Serial Number 4891 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 28, 2018

Serial Number 4232 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 21, 2018

Serial Number 4750 was reported as accurate.

linesuper 1 · March 25, 2018

Serial Number 4584 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 15, 2018

Serial Number 4700 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2018

Serial Number 4723 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2018

Serial Number 4723 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 22, 2017

Serial Number 4199 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 16, 2017

Serial Number 4210 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 23, 2017

Serial Number 4299 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 24, 2017

Serial Number 4021 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · January 27, 2017

Serial Number 4165 was reported as accurate.

wardralston 2 · January 26, 2017

Serial Number 4165 was reported as accurate.

aolinske 1 · January 20, 2017

Serial Number 4586 was reported as accurate.

aolinske 1 · January 20, 2017

Serial Number 4586 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 31, 2016

Serial Number 4300 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 9, 2016

Serial Number 4033 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 8, 2016

Serial Number 4403 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 7, 2016

Serial Number 4258 was reported as accurate.

jloveastvan23 1 · October 30, 2015

Serial Number 4069 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 8, 2015

Serial Number 4245 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · September 17, 2015

Serial Number 4200 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 25, 2013

Serial Number 4077 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 20, 2013

Serial Number 4364 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 2, 2013

Serial Number 4636 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · April 10, 2013

Serial Number 4026 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 27, 2013

Serial Number 4020 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 5, 2013

Serial Number 4455 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · February 8, 2013

Serial Number 4412 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Train plate not marked Adjusted on this serial
number movement

Anonymous · February 4, 2013

Serial Number 4201 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · December 3, 2012

Serial Number 4017 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · October 2, 2012

Serial Number 4804 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · June 12, 2012

Serial Number 4741 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 69 Pocket Watch
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