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Access Date: April 24, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 27 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 27 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 27

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 4454844
Grade: 27
Variation: B.W. Raymond
Model: 2
Class: 1
Estimated Production Year: 1892
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 18 of 42
Grade/Model Total Production: 45,000
Variant Est. Production: 33,000 (18S-M2-15J)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 15j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Moseley
Hairspring: Breguet
Escapement Type: Straight-line
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class C
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 1713.27G18.18S1017.182M126.H1373.L821.15J503
Database Version: v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 135.48
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 52.30
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.089%
Registry Population: 15 (1.50%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 5.38% Analyzing 197 Sales
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 27

Target Profile: 18S-M2-15J-HNL-APTI-B.W. RAYMOND

Elgin Grade 27 (All Variations): 45,000 ETP
18S: 45,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 27
18S-M2: 45,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 27, Model 2
18S-M2-15J: 33,000 73.33%
18s, Grade 27, Model 2, 15 Jewels		 Other: 12,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified
18S-M2-15J-HNL: 33,000 73.33%
18s, Grade 27, Model 2, 15 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel
18S-M2-15J-HNL-APTI: 33,000 73.33%
18S-M2-15J-HNL-APTI-B.W. RAYMOND: 33,000 73.33%

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
There are 15 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 4691 · October 25, 2023

Serial Number 4454023 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 3, 2022

Serial Number 4454698 was reported as accurate.

dfurtado 112 · June 4, 2021

Serial Number 4454047 was reported as accurate.

georged 160 · February 21, 2021

Serial Number 4454375 was reported as accurate.

Mlof73 Supporter 5 · November 8, 2020

Serial Number 4454844 was reported as accurate.

Mlof73 Supporter 5 · October 17, 2020

Serial Number 4454844 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Non-hunter. Is open face
Also 17 jewels marked on mvmt
Also seconds dial indicator located at 3:00
position
Instead of 6:00.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report and images. Your particular movement is fitted with a "conversion dial" that allows a hunting movement to be fitted in an openface case while maintaining the stem at the 12:00 position. These dials can cause confusion related to the original factory configuration, but the Grade 27 Raymond is a hunting movement. The "17 Jewels" is not a factory marking. In addition to the rough engraving that is inconsistent with the factory markings, the center wheel is not jeweled as would be expected with a 17-Jewel B.W. Raymond movement.

Anonymous · June 28, 2019

Serial Number 4454377 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 28, 2018

Serial Number 4454876 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 27, 2018

Serial Number 4454876 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2018

Serial Number 4454631 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 26, 2016

Serial Number 4454454 was reported as accurate.

rock862 242 · February 27, 2016

Serial Number 4454454 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 5, 2015

Serial Number 4454327 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 10, 2014

Serial Number 4454884 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 10, 2014

Serial Number 4454884 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 22, 2013

Serial Number 4454752 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Elgin Grade 27 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 27 Pocket Watch
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