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https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/8832434/movement
Access Date: December 11, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 252
Father Time
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 8832434 | |
| Grade: | 252 | |
| Variation: | Father Time | |
| Model: | 7 | |
| Class: | 65 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1900 | |
| Run Quantity: | 3,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 4 of 16 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 19,000 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Mixed | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Escapement Type: | Straight-line | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 347272 | |
| Movement Markings: | Father Time 21 Jewels Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. Adjusted. Safety Pinion. |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 3584.252G4.18S1892.187M72.O958.L1386.21J79 | |
| Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.504 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 57.20 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 22.05 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.038% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 56 (1.87%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -2.81% Analyzing 164 Sales | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 252
Target Profile: 18S-M7-21J-ONL-APTI-FATHER TIME
| Elgin Grade 252 (All Variations): 19,000 ETP |
| 18S: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252 |
| 18S-M7: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252, Model 7 |
| 18S-M7-21J: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252, Model 7, 21 Jewels |
| 18S-M7-21J-ONL: 19,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 252, Model 7, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
| 18S-M7-21J-ONL-APTI: 19,000 100.00% |
| 18S-M7-21J-ONL-APTI-FATHER TIME: 19,000 100.00% |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 56 watches in the population registry for this run with 11 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · August 23, 2024
Serial Number 8831698 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 3, 2024
Serial Number 8832150 was reported as accurate.
cjbrem Supporter 933 · December 4, 2023
Serial Number 8832567 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 27, 2023
Serial Number 8833852 was reported as accurate.
TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · September 17, 2023
Serial Number 8831341 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 10, 2023
Serial Number 8832050 was reported as accurate.
cmdraven 4083 · March 29, 2022
Serial Number 8833051 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 27, 2022
Serial Number 8833973 was reported as accurate.
brianwatches 53 · March 15, 2022
Serial Number 8832388 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 23, 2021
Serial Number 8833155 was reported as inaccurate.
“Movement Signing Style” from mixed to what I
believe is “Old English”. It’s the same
style on the example shown above. Thank you for
your hard work!
wmike565 Supporter 115 · January 28, 2021
Serial Number 8831383 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 30, 2020
Serial Number 8831155 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 11, 2020
Serial Number 8832150 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 29, 2020
Serial Number 8831762 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 5, 2020
Serial Number 8831762 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 5, 2020
Serial Number 8831762 was reported as accurate.
Owassa3 1 · March 20, 2019
Serial Number 8833304 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 20, 2019
Serial Number 8833304 was reported as accurate.
oilseed Supporter 471 · March 11, 2018
Serial Number 8831151 was reported as accurate.
jacobwalls07 143 · January 21, 2018
Serial Number 8833916 was reported as accurate.
Gimparoo Supporter 703 · January 20, 2018
Serial Number 8832982 was reported as accurate.
Gimparoo Supporter 703 · October 25, 2017
Serial Number 8832766 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 17, 2017
Serial Number 8833012 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 6, 2017
Serial Number 8833633 was reported as accurate.
PADINTEXAS 8 · August 4, 2017
Serial Number 8832367 was reported as accurate.
jrmartin1964 2 · July 2, 2017
Serial Number 8831262 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 10, 2016
Serial Number 8833695 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 22, 2016
Serial Number 8833758 was reported as accurate.
WilliamGene 69 · June 28, 2016
Serial Number 8833686 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 8, 2016
Serial Number 8833726 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 23, 2016
Serial Number 8831653 was reported as accurate.
Cryptid 1 · October 13, 2015
Serial Number 8832494 was reported as accurate.
Cryptid 1 · October 9, 2015
Serial Number 8832494 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 24, 2015
Serial Number 8831778 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 24, 2015
Serial Number 8831778 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 18, 2014
Serial Number 8832051 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 20, 2014
Serial Number 8831344 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 29, 2014
Serial Number 8833289 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 29, 2014
Serial Number 8833289 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 14, 2014
Serial Number 8833543 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 15, 2013
Serial Number 8832040 was reported as accurate.
Dch525 25 · June 21, 2013
Serial Number 8831187 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 10, 2013
Serial Number 8831187 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 20, 2012
Serial Number 8832456 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 3, 2012
Serial Number 8833135 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 11, 2012
Serial Number 8833572 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 9, 2012
Serial Number 8833303 was reported as accurate.
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