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Access Date: February 17, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 367
Father Time
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 13505996 | |
| Grade: | 367 | |
| Variation: | Father Time | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | Second | |
| Class: | 90 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1909 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 13 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 10,300 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 8,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 2,700 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 6081.367G1.18S2675.188M71.O2013.L1822.21J157 | |
| Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.608 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 31.01 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 11.93 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.020% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 14 (1.40%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 367
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME
| Elgin Grade 367 (All Variations): 10,300 ETP | |
| 18S: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367 |
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| 18S-M8: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-21J: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 10,300 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME: 8,000 77.67% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 13,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 2,700 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 14 watches in the population registry for this run.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · June 20, 2024
Serial Number 13505603 was reported as accurate.
cjbrem Supporter 1024 · March 18, 2024
Serial Number 13505997 was reported as accurate.
rmwatchandclock Supporter 384 · August 16, 2021
Serial Number 13505339 was reported as accurate.
rmwatchandclock Supporter 384 · August 4, 2021
Serial Number 13505339 was reported as accurate.
Siebefa 17 · February 13, 2021
Serial Number 13505162 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 3, 2016
Serial Number 13505524 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Should be Railroad Grade: Yes (Same as movement
15154697)
15154697)
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · April 21, 2015
Serial Number 13505988 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 18 size 21 jewel Father Time just as pictured
#15394911
#15394911
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · October 19, 2013
Serial Number 13505833 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Not free sprung, no winding indicator, railroad
grade, not nautical.
grade, not nautical.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · May 15, 2013
Serial Number 13505996 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: standard pocket watch, not free spring, not
mounted, otherwise data is correct.
mounted, otherwise data is correct.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Railroad Grade changed from No to Yes
