Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 581 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 581

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 39261061 Question Mark
Grade: 581 Question Mark
Variation: B.W. Raymond Question Mark
Model: 15 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1941 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 500 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 1 of 9 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 20,800 Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 22j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Ball Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
Wind Indicator Available: Yes Question Mark
Wind Indicator Present: Yes Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 14864.581G1.16S3722.1615M328.O6820.P11743.22J1 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.465 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
62.62 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
24.14 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.041% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
5 (1.00%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 2.26% Analyzing 79 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · January 12, 2023

Serial Number 39261165 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This one is a wind indicator with GCT white
porcelain dial, and has 22 jewels but marked as 21
jewel, in correct base military case.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · March 3, 2022

Serial Number 39261043 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

sukay85 8 · June 18, 2018

Serial Number 39261061 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Has wind indicator option .
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The early Grade 581 movements were manufactured with provisions for a wind indicator. However, not all were actually equipped with this option. Does your watch have a wind indicator on the dial?
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface

Anonymous · September 22, 2012

Serial Number 39261275 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 21j to 22j
Movement Configuration changed from Sweepsecond to Openface